Comments on: Modern Warfare 2 – Killing Civilians

By: Craig

Craig — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:07:29 +0000

It’s not a case of being ‘beat’. With anything like this of course it’s going to split opinion – that’s the joy of it isn’t it?

By: Laurence

Laurence — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:48:11 +0000

I know when to admit I’m beat. This is certainly how I felt playing through the game, but I guess I must just be in a minority.

I really think that you can take from games whatever you want, and this is what I chose to take from it.

I’m glad most people agree it shouldn’t be banned but I genuinely am surprised at the amount of people who thought the scene was inappropriate.

I actually thought Alec’s arguments were quite weak. Overall, I think Phil Cameron’s were the most convincing- http://resolution-magazine.co.uk/content/the-prison-of-choice/

By: Craig

Craig — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:23:48 +0000

Ooh, Alec Meer has made my point better than I could in his ‘Wot I think’ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/11/17/wot-i-think-modern-warfare-2

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:44:38 +0000

They are. You can’t go Action! Explosion! Snowmobile Chase! Deeply disturbing slaughter of innocents. Explosion!

It doesn’t sit right with me. In my humble opinion games – like any other media – need a tone setting for the experience. You wouldn’t slip Radiohead into the middle of an S Club 7 album, same goes here. Although, I have to concede that I haven’t played it and am purely going of footage of general gameplay and that scene; you’re the expert at the minute so if you say “it isn’t like that” then I’ll believe you.

p.s. Obnoxious was maybe the wrong word to use. Maybe ‘crass’ is better.

By: Laurence

Laurence — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:51:14 +0000

@ Drug Crazed

I’m sorry but I think your response is a bit of a cop out. It’s good that you don’t agree with the majority of criticisms made and you certainly had a unique take on the situation, but you really think that we should concede on the quality of our games because of the ignorance of sensationalists?

@ Craig

Why can’t we have both? You seem to assume that serious issues and “obnoxious” action sequences are incompatible…

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:19:53 +0000

There was no forcing. And like I say, that’s how the internet works you crazy fool.

By: Drug Crazed Dropkick

Drug Crazed Dropkick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:34:42 +0000

Craig forced me to appear here. I’ve already said my bit about it on my blog. Go and have a look. http://drugcrazed.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/no-press/

Btw, this is revenge for Craig plugging his blog on mine. Git.

By: Craig

Craig — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:29:31 +0000

Do you not think it’s just a bit of a heavy handed push in the ‘this is a MATURE game, ok guys?’ direction which is only undermined by the almost obnoxious action sequences?

To me, it’s like, if you want to make a serious game with serious issues, fine; I’m cool with that. But you can’t make a serious game with serious issues if you can absorb bullets and basically be a super soldier as you wade through hundreds of enemies in an action movie plot.

Does that make sense? Dunno. Going bed.

By: Ed

Ed — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:56:07 +0000

I think the whole thing would’ve been more effective if they’d placed you as a civilian. Make the mission end and progress the game as soon as you get killed (so no respawning). So it’d be possible to get away and survive, but most likely you’d die and the game would move on.

By: SAeN

SAeN — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:01:22 +0000

As you said, I hope many didnt make light of this scene, I was actually a bit disturbed by what the scene depicts. That being the atrocity that is terrorism and the impact it has on people(although I did laugh at the heavy voiceover someone did).

It gives a startling insight into what events like the mumbai attack a year ago and the columbine massacre must have been like for the victims, that being complete fear for your life. It was shocking to watch as civilians tried to save their friends only to be gunned down. If there was any part of that game that I will remember most it will be that moment, mostly because the rest of the game was dry for memorable moments.